This is a brief email discussion between two well seasoned Men’s Rights Movement activists. It describers some obstacles of our movement.
Subject: Out-numbered and out-organized
MRA 1: The ballot for candidates to the Steering Committee of the District of Columbia Bar Association Family law Section exemplifies how we are outgunned and out-organized.
It’s a nine-member volunteer committee that sponsors training, suggests legislation and gets to put the Bar Association name on its recommendations. The six incumbents include two men and four women. The six candidates for the three seats to be filled in the current election cycle are all women – – – THERE ARE ZERO MALE CANDIDATES
Of the six candidates, four brag about their DV credentials and a fifth one brags about being “President-Elect of the Women’s Bar Association.” (Of course, there is no Men’s Bar Association; just the regular Bar Association that is run by women while simultaneously being pilloried as part of the “Old Boys Network” and “Patriarchy”).
This is happening all over the country in all sorts of organizations.
You can be mad at certain individuals and groups for their gender bias but you can’t be mad at them for working, organizing, using the system and implementing their agenda through the organizations that they take over. Anybody can do that but, right now, only they are doing it.
That has to change or the bias will only deepen and become further institutionalized in formal law and in institutional policy. For anybody who cares about men and boys, that has to be a concern.
We all need to increase our civic participation and encourage as many others as possible to do so as well.
MRA 2 response: This is a real contribution for what we must do. Certainly if we get out gunned as you are describing we will not get a damm thing but a headache. Your call as I see it is this. Stop playing at politics and start doing the backbreaking work that produces results. Of course, the structural problem is that women team in a minute while men do not except in football and basketball and it is a struggle there.
I don’t at all despair and I think that men can effectively form teams in any endeavor. Recall that most of the groups that are being taken over by the women were first created by teams of men. The Bar Association is a perfect example of that.
MRA 1: One of the key things we need to do is to re-legitimize men and boys as worthy of attention, interest and effort.
In the current environment, it is considered natural to have a “Women’s Bar Association” but it is impossible to have a “Men’s Bar Association.” Maybe we should have both or maybe we should have neither but it is the height of sexism to say that one is good and the other is bad. Almost every university has a “Women’s Studies” program but almost none have a Men’s Studies” program and the few that do offer “Men’s Studies” courses are dominated by the blame and shame ideologues.
That is not to say that anything is impossible in our efforts; it just means that we have work to do and much of that work consists of just showing up to demand a seat at the table and speaking up on behalf of men and boys as human beings with wants, needs, strengths and weaknesses – – – just as much and just as worthy as women.
NCFM NOTE: Absent here is discussion of the $$$. MRA’s are out-funded too. The women’s movement, relatively speaking, has it all and they continuously clamor for more regardless of the cost; that is, as long as the cost is primarily paid for by transferring $$$’s from men to women. Did you know that the two primary ways women achieve wealth are inheritance and divorce? All branches of government pay a significant number of women advocates hefty salaries to do not much more than go to meetings to figure out how to get more money for women. They call it work.
Umm, whose fault is it that there are no male candidates? Every qualified person, male or female, is allowed to run for seats on the committee.
Yes, Simon, oppose universal suffrage wherever you find it. Socialism on this scale is the very root of the problems in America and the world. Everything in this world that has any value must be earned, and universal suffrage devalues votes to worthlessness.
wow y'all are pretty goddamned ignorant here at this National Confederation of Brain Dead Men…haven't seen this level of stupidity in a looong time (also, tiny penises right? 🙂
You're the brain dead one, Dashboard. This is a growing movement that is about equal rights, period. You obviously don't have a clue about the degree of discrimination against men in child custody, parental rights, DV policies, public health, public benefits, criminal sentencing, forced labor, etc.
Very well said Mark ! This guy is an idiot ! Let him go through divorce once and he will sing a different song_.
Toronto,Ontario
I would question whether Dashboard is a guy at all, seems like a feminist troll to me…
Penis size just right, vagina way to big…….
So given all they have just said is there anything that the average man in the street who has his eyes open to misandry can do?
Here in Asia is the worst. Men are portrayed as demons and our women think that they're too good for us. This is why we move to the less misandric Western countries (the lesser evil) and marry western women. Africa has it the least and this is why a lot of Indian, Pakistani and Chinese men live there. The first Asian women award in the U.K. was awarded to a woman who MURDERED her husband. Do you see with the kind of ''real, actual Demons'' we have to live here. Every time I see an Asian man with an European woman I think good for him, the other way around I think poor sucker. Most men outnumber women here too, so most of us will never even ''know'' a woman in OUR ENTIRE LIVES.
One huge problem with leadership by women is that women are basically not productive. By that I mean that men have created all the things that we have. Women like to administrate but do not do the heavy lifting. If men are disenfranchised, and as a result become unproductive, our nation will have no strength. Just imagine as an example, no men participating in the military . I know it is harsh and unpopular to say that women are generally not productive, except for the fact that they produce more men, and more women to produce more men, but in reality, the house you live in, the car you drive, the food you eat, etc, etc, etc have been produced by men. If these tasks were left to women, the way they have always been left to men, do you think there would be any of these things?
Many of these tasks are performed so that a man can "take care of his family." Men have proudly taken care of and provided for women and children since the dawn of civilization. Do you see women eager and proud to provide for a secure life for a man?
Feminism is a thinly disguised movement to gather the votes of a majority, which is what women are. Women seek to be provided for, and government exploits their nature. Basically, feminists are government dupes who have abdicated their own birthright and feminine nature for something that they already had, the respect, protection and love of men.
Disincentivize men, and there will be no wealth to transfer.
Boudica. wiped out the 9th Roman Legion. We don't aske for power. We take it.
She was defeated by a mere 10 000 men, and the roman occupation continued, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#Boudica_and_…
The grand son of Mayer Rothciled admidet that they sponsored the Womens movement in the 1900s. so the women can go to work so they can tax them !! Just the facts !!
We have exposed them. It does nothing. The primary problem is that Men care about women, and women care about women. It has always been this way, it will always be this way. The only change that ever sticks is violent change, and no one wants to talk about organizing that.
Only in North America Brigadon !! Only in North America ! Here its the worst . Other parts of the world is not that bad . Its cultural . Im not saying that we should treat women like the Talibans or like in Iran do but …they should know their place . Just a few laws should be changed . It is not going to happen with Obama and Hilary the Men hating Clinton . She is the Feminatzi Evil right now . have said it many times before we need a' Million Men March“ just like the African American men did 12 years a go !!!! Lets go to Washington DC. and stay there for a month . All guys !! We bring barbeques . They have to change all the misandric laws . What are they going to do ? Put us all in jails . Can't ! Im ready !!!! And I live in Canada .
What do you think brother Harry .
All branches of government pay a significant number of women advocates hefty salaries to do not much more than go to meetings to figure out how to get more money for women. They call it work.
What these branches of government? Let's expose them.